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with_discipline) wrote2011-01-19 10:26 pm
with_discipline) wrote2011-01-19 10:26 pm
075 | [Voice]
[Open, but filtered AWAY from the Borg Queen and O'Brien]
[So T'Pol is really bad at small talk. Really, really bad. She tends to need a few minutes just to figure out what to say, because it's awkward. So there's a few seconds of silence, because on some level she can't believe she's actually bothering.]
I'm - curious. Most take individuality for granted; I hope I'll be forgiven when I say humans particularly so. On Vulcan, individuality is honored and respected, to an extent, but even on Earth, there are those who would give up a portion of their identity as an individual in order to be a part of something. It is, I believe, more than a 'mob mentality.'[She's throwing in human phrases with less and less hesitation lately, but it still sounds kind of. weird.]'
I would like to know what the majority of you find an acceptable cause for one to give up his or her individual identity. [And that sounds terribly awkward, because she's thought about this plenty, and it's really just an almost desperate hope for new answers.]
[Private to Data]
What can you tell me of the Ba'ku?
[Private to the EMH]
[She actually sounds almost impatient.] Have you made preparations?
((OOC: Slightly backdated to earlier today. T'Pol's been acting off because her daughter died about this time a year ago for her. So recklessness and idle chatter, yay! :|))
[So T'Pol is really bad at small talk. Really, really bad. She tends to need a few minutes just to figure out what to say, because it's awkward. So there's a few seconds of silence, because on some level she can't believe she's actually bothering.]
I'm - curious. Most take individuality for granted; I hope I'll be forgiven when I say humans particularly so. On Vulcan, individuality is honored and respected, to an extent, but even on Earth, there are those who would give up a portion of their identity as an individual in order to be a part of something. It is, I believe, more than a 'mob mentality.'[She's throwing in human phrases with less and less hesitation lately, but it still sounds kind of. weird.]'
I would like to know what the majority of you find an acceptable cause for one to give up his or her individual identity. [And that sounds terribly awkward, because she's thought about this plenty, and it's really just an almost desperate hope for new answers.]
[Private to Data]
What can you tell me of the Ba'ku?
[Private to the EMH]
[She actually sounds almost impatient.] Have you made preparations?
((OOC: Slightly backdated to earlier today. T'Pol's been acting off because her daughter died about this time a year ago for her. So recklessness and idle chatter, yay! :|))
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I am now. I was given that choice, and I changed.
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I never touched heroin again--never even wanted to. Doctors say it's impossible to kick that addiction cold-turkey, but thanks to John, I did. He saved my life, made me stronger, and then he took me in. He made me his successor.
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He asked you to do harm, and yet those who do the same you judge. It's hypocrisy.
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[And on Amanda's end, the gratefulness and adoration in her voice when she speaks of what John "did for her," and how she takes him being called a hypocrite as a personal insult, are very obvious. He clearly fucked her up in the head, BADLY.]
He gave me a choice. I could allow myself to be the victim of my own weakness and apathy yet again, and just sit back and die...or I could take my life into my own hands, and overcome both my addiction and the person who had reinforced in me it over and over again. Donnie Greco preyed on the desperate for a living and made their existences worse. He didn't appreciate a goddamn thing about life.
John empowered me, and showed me that I had what it took to survive and turn my life around.
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He made you his own victim. How can one who condones mutilation and murder appreciate life?
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Don't try that angle. He does not condone murder, and despises murderers--those are his own words. I didn't murder Donnie, and he didn't ask it of me. Self-defense is not homicide.
And he never, ever made me into a victim. [Except when she failed his second test for her and got shot in the neck for it--BUT WHO CARES ABOUT MINOR DETAILS LIKE THAT.] He took me when I was a pathetic victim of myself, and made me into a survivor...and in return, I pledged every cell in my body to him and his work. In giving up who I was, I became everything to him--his words, again.
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You don't fucking get it. You don't want to understand, so you run from the details and hide behind generalizations. He knew one of us would die, and he set it up. So what? He didn't make that choice for me. I decided to survive. I decided Donnie would die, and if I hadn't, I'd just be killing myself.
He handed me the gun, that's all. I pulled the trigger, not John, and I did it in self-defense. There was no homicide involved.
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Accepting the situation as you explain it, you've described him as an accessory to homicide. Hanging someone a weapon and instructing them to use it is cause for arrest on most planets and, I believe, in most centuries.
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John never forced any of his test subjects to win or lose their games, and I follow that principle here. I didn't burn Victor's face; I didn't cut Clapet's leg apart. I gave them options, and let them make their own choices. If I followed a killer's rules, neither of them would have survived!
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No. Like this John, you've orchestrated situations in which harm will be done. That is not proving the sanctity of life to anyone.
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They've learned not to fuck up again! Do you even know the things they did to land themselves in games, or are you going to see them as the victims along with everyone else?!
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